… I think there’s often a bit of gate keeping that goes on among women. I mean how often do you hear “I’d never let my husband dress the children”? The other? You stop wordlessly expecting men to be shit at housework and raising children. How can women start changing that?Ī: There’s two things you can do about that. MM: Your research revealed that even when mothers work full-time, they still do more than twice as much household work as their full-time working husbands. And a lot of men that I spoke to (when writing the book) had low-level difficulties where they asked to work flexibly and their bosses were like, “what?” I think with the workplace, lots of workplaces have flexible work policies but often, even implicitly, they’re designed with women in mind. MM: What needs to happen for men to feel okay about being more flexible with their work, or taking up a role within the home while women work full-time?Ī: It’s assumed that men – it kills me how deeply this assumption still runs under our society – that men won’t change the way they work when they have children. But I think often, it’s a bit sad that men don’t really get that experience much. It’s fun to talk about that stuff, but it’s sort of a real part of life for working mothers.
For me, there’s filming that last series of Kitchen Cabinet when my baby Kate was three months old… My producer actually held my baby in a sling, with an earpiece so she could still produce my show… I jellied my breast milk for a while because it was a way of feeding her! The absolute standout leader board winner from the book is a woman called Lisa Annese (the CEO of the Diversity Council Australia).Įvery chick who is a working parent has a stock in trade of these kind of ridiculous stories. MM: You use a terrific term in the book when describing how you meet all your responsibilities at home and at work: “I use every scrap of the day like an Italian farmer uses all of the pig.” Does that describe the lives of many working mothers you know?Ī: Sure, yeah! I mean (I know many) people who can multi-task.
It gives you a sense of companionable equality. Our house is kind of a mad house, like lots of houses with these children are. Which is actually rather excellent advice.Īnd my partner, who also works full time - he works a half-day week from home, he brings home work as well, so he works at a time when he’s involved in dinner and putting the kids in bed. “You can just do less stuff,” Crabb says.
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